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they've had a less than harmonious past occupy wall street and the new york police department have clashed since the movement began now the n.y.p.d. has a different view of occupy we'll tell you what it is in just a moment. be careful what you tax police departments here in the u.s. want permission to store all of your text messages for a two year period is this just another sign of big brother going too far. and sex sells that's the old saying so how is the world's oldest living profession making out in the recession we'll speak to the owner of the infamous bunny ranch and see how his business is faring during this economic slowdown.
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it's friday december seventh five him in washington d.c. i'm going lopez and you're watching our t.v. . all right well we begin tonight in egypt where demonstrations against the newly elected president mohamed morsi have continued to grow the unrest in egypt is now well into its third week and if you think you're seeing deja vu what the protests playing out in tough we're square you're correct once again the demonstrations are becoming very violent very quickly as many as six people were killed in last night's clashes alone now all of this is over the near absolute power president morsi claimed last month while drafting a new constitution or attempting to anyway even claiming judicial immunity and despite his calls for dialogue morsi only fuel tension further with a fiery speech last night where he refused to call off a rep or a referendum on a draft constitution although new information is coming in that the vice president says morsi might be calling that off after all journalist belcher who is in cairo
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and brings us the latest. as you can probably see behind me there are hundreds and thousands of protesters who met in the middle because there's a barricade on either side of the street the carney chanting against the muslim brotherhoods the president in the constitution how this happened we're not entirely sure protesters i've spoken to said that sensually the republican guards just stepped aside and let people cast at first people worried that this might be a sign of some kind of trap or actually other people were saying that maybe they just felt that the hundreds of thousands of people because it has now stretched to hundreds of thousands of people just overwhelmed the guards and they just thought it would be safe to let people through at the moment you can see protesters stretching into the horizon as they chance against president morsy and vowed to stay here all night so i know the scenes are quite jubilant so we haven't heard of any violence yes it seems that they mean at the moment hundred posts of the
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republican guards who erected these barricades on thursday in praising this curfew after the violent clashes there actually standing on top of tanks with protesters here with chanting at the protest the chanting against the mostly they don't appear to be doing anything about the crowds we have an absence here of of pro president supporters which which actually helps in terms of violence as most of the clashes have been between rival protest groups meeting and then the scene times violence one recent development we had is the justice minister came out and said that the president might consider delaying the referendum if opposition forces agree to dialogue to engage in dialogue without preconditions was entirely sure what this statement means that it is a sign that perhaps the president is mulling over potential talks with opposition forces other than not to cause the president's surge in his in his speech to the nation last night that he would hold folks with opposition leaders on saturday which is tomorrow to talk about the problems that they have with the constitution
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and the concept of the creation which many seems to have said is a massive power grab by the president's reaction by the coalition of opposition forces the national salvation front was an absolute no sir really we're still in a deadlock. that was journalist belcher reporting from cairo. all right well here's a story about you thought you'd never see the occupy wall street activists the new york police department working together to lower crime rates the scene was quite different just a few short months ago. video like this was a television screen last year when thousands of occupy protesters clashed with police and zuccotti park and around the city hundreds were arrested and chaos and relations between the two has been rocking ever since but all that changed in october when hurricane sandy struck the coasts of new york and new jersey hurricane sandy forged more than a path of destruction and paved the way for cooperation between the n.y.p.d. and the occupy movement as a result of the increased presence there has been
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a crime rates have actually gone down normally conditions like frank and storm and cause looting mugging and other crimes but not this time and new york police source told the new york post this crisis allowed us to remove the pollute the politics and differences we had to do our job and come to the aid of the people we all rose to the occasion so is this beginning of a beautiful friendship to answer all that and more i was joined earlier by occupy wall street activist goldie from new york i asked him why police violence during the occupy wall street movement has led to a decrease in crime in the wake of sandy. well what's happening right now is everyone very hurt by hurricane sandy and i think everyone is working really hard together to help those in need that's what we're doing we got off the ground running the day after the storm to help people. and the police are doing the same
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as far as the data on lowering the crime rate. i'm sure that's because everyone's really really busy just licking their wounds and helping other people in our case but instead in situations like this what we've seen before not only in the us with hurricane katrina and other places is that looting still all up and you think it's a matter of desperation for these people and if so how is your organization working to to correct that situation. again we're just we're just helping people. i would just i'm not really sure where the where the data comes from we are working . closely with the n.y.p.d. whenever they help people where that where they're also so i i'm not really here i know in redhook that a special situation where they're working even closer with the n.y.p.d. . but i think it's better if i had to talk about what exactly you are doing with the n.y.p.d. how these coordination efforts happening and how you guys really come together in
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the past month. i'm based out of the occupy sandy hub in staten island and we have the n.y.p.d. retired n.y.p.d. and its hard firefighters right next to us they cook for us and for the whole community. we work and say hello with them each and every day i think it's just under duress this is what sort of humanity does and unfortunately as things get better the will be will be new new strains introduced especially when it comes to where we come from which is occupy wall street we advocate for poor people and usually it's against people that run the system so as we're seeing more and more houses condemned and the possibility of eminent domain and developers coming in. you're going to meet occupy sandy will morph back into occupy wall street and you'll see us back the way we are when we advocate for poor people and talk about
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the n.y.p.d. and what it was specifically they can learn from the occupy movement i mean obviously your movement has no time to organize it had to do it in the past you were able to support yourselves as you call the park by dividing up donated food and blankets so what has or can the n.y.p.d. and other nonprofit organizations learn from the occupy movement. well it seems like the whole last year we were training for this moment because we know how to operate with very little and as soon as we got donations and resources that seemed substantial we were out which is nothing compared to what the red cross has but we were out on the streets doing what we do which is providing like direct actions to help people what. the n.y.p.d. when there is no state emergency system is what we found on the ground and through all these meetings where were all the different groups meet together like fema the red cross we've met with them repeatedly we have yet to see sort of an emergency
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plan what they have is a bunch of applications that they want people to fill out and they seem to have some kind of medium and possibly long term plan but that's we haven't gotten there yet we're still in emergency mode where people need shelter they need they need warmth they need power and none of these things people have in a lot of the affected areas so that there doesn't seem to be an emergency system in place i hate to tell you but. so far we're filling a huge void out there which is providing people with with basic needs and basic routes to take to get the things that they need to be slightly more comfortable and all the while we're talking about this i notice that you're also wearing a yellow occupy sandy badge on tell us quickly where people can donate to if they choose to do south yeah you can go to occupy sandy dot org and all or all information is there including you can donate supplies or through your wedding registry or money through through our accounts on there we're all very proud of
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this it always gets a good fist bump from fema the red cross because they know the work we're doing absolutely and so let's also talk about what you exactly has learned from the new york police department if anything i mean you've been working side by side with these nonprofits and also with the new york police department do you think that any of your experience from what i'm hearing has contributed to being able to translate into the occupy movement is economy park and beyond just this hurricane sandy. i mean a lot of these organizations are coming to us asking asking us for our information and our data from canvassing because we were first on the ground. and the red cross actually said hey we don't know where to go because you guys didn't tell us for some reason we were supposed to tell them where to go when really it's their job what it was so what they can learn i'm not really sure how to apply this to a government that there's a lot of red tape but the government we just get in there and help people because we can we're nimble we're small we're quick. what they could learn is to actually
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be a little more nimble and quick it took them weeks to raise to to you know forego like osha and other sort of contingencies that were placed on workers. they can they can just move a little a little faster and provide for heaters from the government from the government from fema from the red cross all of them refuse teachers because a lot of people some people have power they don't have heat so providing these basic things for people it seems to be very hard for any of these huge agencies to do and they all they all apologize and say nice job. and we'll leave it at that all right occupy activists goldie's thank you for your work and for everything you're doing out there and i will see more of you i'm sure in the coming days and weeks that is occupy activist goldie and you can see him at gorilla shack dot com. all right today is the first day of the month then you know what that means the u.s.
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jobs report is out now according to the report the u.s. economy added one hundred forty six thousand jobs this past november add to that the news that the unemployment rate dipped to seven point seven percent that's the lowest it's been since two thousand and eight but all of not not all that news is rosy however jobs numbers from previous months were revised downwards meaning that there was forty nine thousand fewer jobs in the last two months then we originally thought some businesses though are considered recession proof take a listen to this there's three. three areas of the economy that tend to do ok in a recession alcohol makeup and sex toys i used to sell a one or two a month maybe three or four now i'm selling my town a week so is sex really the key to financial success to answer this and more i'm joined now by moonlight bunny ranch owner dennis hof and one of his colleagues krista kisses to answer that question more hi there guys and then let's
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start with you and i know you're not supposed to talk about politics or religion in brothels but today let's make an exception talk about at least the first one i'd like to play a little clip for you from c.m.t. see it and get your thoughts. do you think for lack of better room word things have bottomed and they're getting better or or still along the bottom i have not seen signs of improvement yet know. if i were going to start a brothel today i wouldn't. so in that clip you had a fellow. matter come out to say that she wouldn't encourage anyone to go into this line of business i know that you disagree with us can you explain why well it was she said x. employees who knows but the blue ridge just received such a proof of the recently this is just we've got quality rules because you're fifty seven years know if we do the job properly i'm in the middle of buying brothels if
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they want to sell others on the budget when i look at this is a restaurant that serves better food completely because they don't have the clothes we're going to look close so let me go ahead. good we give the real thing for the black. and more s n one a nice final words but let's go and ask the best so is it possible that this virus causes an entire story that was on c n d c is it possible that this mustang ranch was is just out of luck like your explainer or in that your brand to protect all or is just doing so well during this economic tell i'm well the fact that we were told as you saw the sichuan is seven languages and forty no country does well but you know we do the job in the you're just sour grapes i've bought six places that all think work they do they want to sell their clothes are buying sell what is it about your business that makes it recession proof. well it to preclude the wrote in its
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look or gave you in six years this is recession proof this is not top of that i've got to admit and that's why i believe that buying up is other brothels because they're all going out of business it's tough to know but if you do it right if you run a quality operation we have beautiful girls but for us so that your about their clients it works you are across let's let's hear from you are you not experiencing any type of economic hardships obviously one of the things that the word the woman said in the article when she was talking to sandy was that you know we are expecting any type of fire sale so how's business for you it's wonderful i'd say eighty seven percent return business and the rest just floor it really if you take care of your clients and you build a relationship they return again and again and again always to my delight and surprise here this year the figures the bun rumors is not just sex it's an adventure and it's it's more about the adventure some toes than it is about the
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selects and that's what christodoulos lot of overloads a lot of the going to be going to see those just haven't done with their clothes rather than just so insects so is there any other businesses are there in the sex industry that you think we're being considered recession proof i'm actually i just interviewed a man earlier this week and he talked about the fast food industry being a little bit of a recession per do you think it's always things like this almost guilty pleasures that are that are recession proof absolutely absolutely that they've used whatever the baby boomers through that's the first recession proof also this surge of gold to society so whatever they do might not care they don't care is this is just huge because the baby boomers will get along. so even if you consider your business or stash a roof have you made any changes due to the economic downturn. yes absolutely what we've what we don't list we're more selective about the girls we hire because we
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give a thousand girls a mark so we can be if you're in we can make sure that they want to work and make us a career not just come in mid fifty thousand you know and go back to college so we're looking for the girl that wants to be or so because the longer a girl is here the more clients you know. absolutely certain. and have you been following the fiscal cliff discussions and if so do you think that this is going to affect their business at all oh absolutely will not be for these people they're so ridiculous it's time that america just says these politicians excuse me i hired you i will follow you get your act together there is just a joke it's just a joke all sides trying to show how big they are how they're merely to come to the barrister so girls who are how much of a mirror you really are we'll take it because you and our sunday review can we only have about a minute left i should preface it with that but in a sunday review on new york times columnist ross to hot advocated for
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a higher birthrate in the u.s. he said that birth rates are very low and i know you're not in the baby making business but you are in the sex business and you think that having more babies or it would help us economically well i think it absolutely could but we need to job support there and the reason there is less babies does is there's the worst marriages you know those the safety of marriages stored away does that work and that's why everybody comes to the road they don't they don't want to be you know they have a good authority interruptive or you are just out of time dennis hopper owner of the like bunny ranch and caressa kisses that the bunny ranch thank you so much they will. ari sticking with the topic of the economy fears of falling over the proverbial fiscal cliff have forced the issue to the top of the congressional agenda the upcoming financial crisis was created by congress to force congress to act and is now acting against congress so much so that it could potentially cause the us to spiral into
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a congressional mandated recession so are you prepared for that or do you think this whole thing will blow over in the net and a last minute deal lorie harshness of the resident dot net took that question to the streets of the financial capital of the world. america is about to go over the fiscal cliff are you worried what should we do about it this week let's talk about that do you know the fiscal cliff. do you think a lot of americans do so then why is the media talking about it incessantly well so good there i i guess i'm not as informed as i should be but i just kind of figure it might work out do you think most people feel that way you know you think most people are worried i think they are and i think that if i ignored it all go away do you think calling it something like the fiscal cliff minimizes it yes and no i definitely agree that it's a complex problem i don't think it simplifies it though i think it adds an element
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of panic or fear looming. doom that and the media loves that yeah do you think there's actually something to worry about or do you think it's something the politicians and the media used to distract us from what's really going on politics and media for sure so what's really going on that they're distracting us from. their own personal agendas people fall into a trip when it comes to reelecting. people that don't do their job. which is all of them you know in a word yes yes they're much more concerned with their own agendas and their own you know ties that they were already got there used to be there was a thought at one time that the incumbent should never be reelected and it doesn't mean anyone at the top or the bottom and should be everyone should have one term and that's it if they're not really trying to work together three business channels or in twenty four hours a day and it's good news nothing else is happening we already caught bin ladin so we move on and we just talk about the fiscal cliff correct and we scare everybody everybody in their sister even though nothing's really going to change because the
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economy sucks anyway oh i think it'll change i just don't think they're going to i think about it do you think they can figure it out or do you think it's up to us individually to do something. so what are you going to. work. where pay the bills and don't spend a lot that you don't have. going to. going to bed going to money as a model when the woman lives whether or not americans are worried about the fiscal cliff the bottom line is the media is milking the crap out of the phrase while realistically nothing drastic is probably going to happen. first law enforcement officials wanted for the ability to listen in on your private phone conversations then they wanted access to your e-mail and internet activities now they're asking for access to your text messages the major cities police chiefs
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association which represents sixty three large police forces in the country those are the largest ones have submitted a proposal to congress that requires wireless providers to record and store information about americans private text messages for at least two years that is to say they want every text message from every user stored for at least two years now i don't know about you but i text a lot so imagine a stockpile of text messages that wireless providers would be forced to store that's two trillion text messages that were sent in the u.s. last year alone so put aside the ethical and moral aspects for a minute is this type of data retention even possible here to break down all of this and more as our two web producer andrew blake straight from the barbershop you know you don't text me that much anymore though i don't text you that much when you usually g. chat so i held it up for my far enough and that's so that's a horse of a whole other color if you want to start talking about that kind of surveillance
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but you know this is so something that's worth talking about today all right well why don't you break it down for us i mean how first of all let's just start with the storage space is it even possible to store this much information yeah sure i mean the money's just a little piece of text but right now we're talking about. billion text messages in the united states every single day like two trillion a year according to statistics from twenty ten twenty eleven i believe so it's a lot of information but we do know there is a whole n.s.a. data center being built over in utah and people say they're just collecting information is there even know how to handle it right now but law enforcement says that there is this information that if it was collected and it was maintained somewhere it would help with a lot of investigation because we write we know right now that law enforcement agencies can now access all sorts of phone records thing is a lot of these providers kiri. they hold on to the tax data but sometimes they don't have to and congress if these major chiefs association has their way congress will be forced to say ok look telecoms you are going to have to hold on to this
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data for two years or pretty much is going to make it you know mandated that it exists so that from there they can do whatever the hell they want to do with it and so you say that they all have the potential of being able to store this but i know that certain wireless carriers like team mobile an a.t.m. to for instance choose not to i thought i was an impression that they didn't have the capacity to be able to store i mean we're talking about a lot of information there's actually if you go online i know. sorry still you put out a form last year going over the major telecom providers and what their own personal retention policies are when i actually think that form in a full screen if we can go ahead and bring that up and talk about which providers in particular actually store it and as you can see on their verizon wireless stores there's for up to three to five days t. mobile cingular sprint and nextel choose not to and here's the whopper virgin mobile stores there's for ninety days they definitely take the cake so i haven't
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heard of the text message content and it's really important to know what is saved and what isn't because it's not necessarily the content can really help out police here we've got to look at the metadata right now it's really easy for law enforcement to go ahead and get her. order that will allow them to see e-mails not necessarily the content of the e-mails but this metadata to see where information is going to who it's coming from to whom it's going to what the subject says where it was sent from that information is a lot easier to get than the actual contents of emails so when we look at text messages right now all these telecom providers they all have different retention policies about how they handle and how they maintain this metadata as well as the actual hard content and all of them you know sure a lot of them don't want to the actual content but a lot of them all of them rather hold onto this the actual metadata for years in fact t. mobile five years eight hundred singular five to seven years that information says you know mega little to send a text messages for andrew blake on december whatever date is seven three or so
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that information could be accessed by by congress by investigators by law enforcement if they all have their way but but right now it's not mandated telecom's can do whatever the hell they want to do with this information but like you said we have this group the major chiefs are major cities chiefs of police association and that's officers from new york l.a. chicago miami there are asking for this and at the same time other groups national district attorneys association national sheriffs association they are also there in their head into this and saying look congress you should consider doing this of course it's not going to matter until congress actually goes and revamp the electronic communications privacy act which is going to happen till next year but it could at least be brought up and can be put on the table and it's serious and which one are they trying to store in particular the metadata or everything that's involved in them or is it clear that it's really not we're still trying to figure out what's happening and we have a lot to learn about the electronic communications privacy act and you know in the grand scheme of things this actually isn't a total loss because there was actually the e.c.p.a.
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as as we call it up in the scene the e.c.p.a. had a really great victory last week when it was decided that it is the law enforcement agent wants to access someone's e-mail that's older than one hundred eighty days they're going to have. start getting warrants so when the c.p.a. goes up for renewal and it is on his that passes that's great for privacy advocates it's a really good step for americans who want to actually protect their online data but isn't it good to trade that off with having to lose cell phone privacy you know we'll see but it's something serious and it's we're just starting to get wind of it now declan mccullagh seen that broke the news the other day and we're still following up on it and artie actually reached out to a number of wireless providers to reach out to t. mobile verizon things like that we also reached out to the cia and i do want to bring up a quote from them their statement they say that this issue contains important privacy and law and enforcement concerns and stakeholders in those areas as well as
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congress are the appropriate parties to assess those considerations now cia of course is a wireless group it's an industry trade group that represents a wide variety of interests on behalf of international wireless telecommunications companies so talk about it as it really is it really in the hands of congress in the stakeholders to be to be able to decide this or should more people be worried about what can come of these text messages well i mean it's up to congress but it's up to the people who elect those people that are going to make those decisions so ultimately congress is going to have to go ahead and say this is what we want to do because that's what the people are telling us to do when we saw with like sopa and pipa last year there was such such such a huge blowback over what that would do for not necessarily privacy but just the information sharing on the internet that there was concerns were heard and you know just recently we saw that there's been huge changes to the n.d.a. for next year and we know how crazy the support was to try to abolish the death and detention provisions so you can always make the argument that oh you know washington doesn't work that lawmakers on the hill are idiots but the same point if
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you have to go back and say ok well they will listen to the people if the people make their message heard loud and clear so there's a there's a chance that you know while this is up to congress that if people actually say look this is my dad i'm going to hold onto it might. self they will get that done again there will always be other alternative providers you will always be able to find a way around this as far if history is any precedent congress is always going to be like five steps behind technology so keep your fingers crossed so that's going to stay that way well we're going to have to watch and see how this all unfolds or so so many things are up in the air andrew blake our web producer thank you so much for joining us are and that's going to do it for now but for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r t america or check out our website r.t. dot com slash usa and don't forget to follow me on twitter at meghan underscore lopez i'll see you right back here in a half at eight pm with more news and in-depth interviews.

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